Paradigm Problems

I have challenged all who believe that conviction of sin follows regeneration, both Hardshell and Reformed Hyperists, to answer the difficulty that such a view puts them in. If the Holy Spirit convicts and convinces a man that he is lost and guilty, when he is really already "regenerated" and "justified," then the Holy Spirit convinces the man of an untruth, of a lie. I have not had one Hyperist to come forward and deal with this. I cited Hardshell Elder Sarrels where he tried to deal with the problem.

Secondly, take the problem that Hyperists, like Frank at Teampyro, have from saying things like - "the dead can't hear." Again, does he mean that the dead cannot hear the voice of the Son of God? Again, as I have said in my rebuttals against Hardshellism, such statements make it impossible for even God to speak to the dead, or they make God into a fool for attempting to speak to the dead! Frank says the "dead can't hear"! If that is true, how did he ever come to life? In fact, he takes the concept of "hearing" out of the equation. If the "dead can't hear," then the dead will never be raised! Or, is Frank saying that the dead can't hear preaching until it first hears Jesus voice in a sub-conscious "regeneration," as the Hardshells say?

What will Frank do with verses that teach "repentance unto life"? What will he do with verses that say "repent and live"? Did Mike not try to explain the "life" in the Ezekiel passage as meaning anything other than "regeneration"? The Hardshells are reluctant to do the same. Also, I predict, that if our discussion with Teampyro were to continue, that they would do with all these verses as the Hardshells do. If any verse puts life or salvation after faith and repentance, then it cannot mean regeneration!

That is not exogesus but eisogesus!

What about "forgiveness of sins"? Do the scriptures put it before or after faith and repentance? Can a man be "regenerated" and not "forgiven"? If regeneration and forgiveness occur simultaneously, then Frank and the Hybrids must deal with that "paradigm problem" also.